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Are we ever going to hear from your burner account /u/Reddit-Policy ever again? You dropped new rules on us and then left the account to die.

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Reddit admin, speaking officially27 points · 6 months ago

Relevant post [NSFW, but not how you think, you filthies]

Congrats on your first comment in the positives.

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Reddit admin, speaking officially32 points · 6 months ago

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Hello All—

We want to let you know that we have made a new addition to our content policy forbidding transactions for certain goods and services. As of today, users may not use Reddit to solicit or facilitate any transaction or gift involving certain goods and services, including:

  • Firearms, ammunition, or explosives;
  • Drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, or any controlled substances (except advertisements placed in accordance with our advertising policy);
  • Paid services involving physical sexual contact;
  • Stolen goods;
  • Personal information;
  • Falsified official documents or currency

When considering a gift or transaction of goods or services not prohibited by this policy, keep in mind that Reddit is not intended to be used as a marketplace and takes no responsibility for any transactions individual users might decide to undertake in spite of this. Always remember: you are dealing with strangers on the internet.

EDIT: Thanks for the questions everyone. We're signing off for now but may drop back in later. We know this represents a change and we're going to do our best to help folks understand what this means. You can always feel free to send any specific questions to the admins here.

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Hi /u/Reddit-Policy,

Are the r/GunDeals moderators ever going to be responded to about our request for reinstatement? We've very clearly outlined, as well as the user base reiterating, that our subreddit was not a marketplace and was inline with the Reddit Policy change.

We’re nearing 72 hours and there has been zero Admin support or communication on the topic and we would appreciate any official word into our specific removal. It seems we're also actively being ignored since you continue to answer questions and not respond to even this comment. This is the 3rd time I’ve requested info publicly to this account.


To outline what was said in the modmail:

Thank you for reaching out to us with regards to the updated Reddit content policy. However, we do not agree with Reddit's assessment of the /r/Gundeals subreddit.

Unlike the community /r/GunsForSale which was also banned, /r/Gundeals was strictly a subreddit for link aggregation (the original purpose for Reddit) and was not using the Reddit platform to directly conduct transactions. All links from /r/Gundeals went to third-party retail websites, and we explicitly banned any users who attempted to arrange transactions, profit from referral programs, etc. in plain view on the Reddit platform within /r/Gundeals.

In light of this, we do not believe the subreddit should have been shut down, and would be more than willing to make any necessary policy changes to the sub to be allowed to continue.

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Reddit admin, speaking officiallyOriginal Poster-11 points · 8 months ago

Hi Semper1371, sorry for the delay. We've seen your modmail and are still reviewing it. These things all happen by humans, so they can take some time. This answer may help you understand the decisionmaking about r/gundeals. That said, this is complicated and we're still reviewing your appeal. Bear with us.

Thanks for the reply,

That’s fair and we can understand trying to find a balance between differentiating a marketplace subreddit and being a link aggregation subreddit, especially with the political issues ongoing with the internet protection side of the house. If the Admins decide on keeping r/GunDeals banned in its current form due to firearm “transactions”, or whatever is the justification, would it be possible to unban the subreddit should we prohibit firearms and ammunition links? While this is not what the moderation team nor community would want, it would be a much better alternative than having the rug blindly ripped from under our feet and being permanently banned.

We would also appreciate some sort of communication between the Admins and moderators of banned communities. I know that it’s taken nearly 72 hours before we were even acknowledged with a “we’re working on it” which, in my personal opinion, is completely unacceptable. A simple “we’ve read your post and are continuing to discuss how to move forward” after the first 24hrs, or hell even 48, would have given us some kind of sign that we had an open channel of discussion. For all we knew, until your comment here, was that we were actively being ignored. I can only assume that we were not the only community to request information and appeal bans, so I can also assume we weren’t the only ones being ignored.

To the community that will read this post: please do not assume that we are “making concessions” or whatever political word you want to use to describe finding a “middle ground”. I personally completely agree this policy change is rather short sighted and going to cause rather large ripples, and am extremely upset with no warning on making our subreddits compliant prior to the policy change, but I also understand what the Reddit Team is trying prevent certain events should things not go exactly as planned with the political climate in the US concerning internet protection (this isn’t necessarily about guns, we have to accept this). I know the community of r/GunDeals are exposed to a very turbulent political field and can have grudges that “muh guns are banded”, but I personally do not feel that Reddit is doing this for that reason. I don’t doubt the possibility exists, but I have a fairly optimistic view on these events.

Thanks,

-Semper1371

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Reddit admin, speaking officiallyOriginal Poster-14 points · 8 months ago

You’re welcome, and thanks for your understanding and reasonableness. This is a big change for us too, one that as you note was brought on by things not entirely in our hands. We think it’s really important to engage directly in the conversation in these situations, but the trade-off is that it can take some time, especially in situations where there are a high-volume of questions. That’s on us. That said, someone from our team will be reaching out to establish a more direct line of communication. Thanks again for your patience and willingness to work through this with us.

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